Sci:新冠康复后严重心血管疾病风险+72%

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Science上2月9号的新文章大家怎么看?

原文地址:

https://www.science.org/content/article/covid-19-takes-serious-toll-heart-health-full-year-after-recovery

引用下文章的一些发现:

 In an analysis of more than 11 million U.S. veterans’ health records, researchers found the risk of 20 different heart and vessel maladies was substantially increased in veterans who had COVID-19 1 year earlier, compared with those who didn’t. 

 had COVID-19 faced a 72% higher risk of heart failure after 12 months than those in a control group who didn’t test positive

26 条回复
  • fqfp
    #1

    还能怎么看,顺其自然呗物竞天择就行了。
    再说了,趁现在这个机会发的一些水论文,未必有什么鸟价值。

  • Gofly 楼主
    #2

    嗯的确很水才一千一百万人的数据,而且大家都知道science是世界最水的几个期刊之一

  • fqfp
    #3

    别盲目崇拜集最顶尖制药公司的力量搞出来的疫苗和booster,现在看来也是屁用没有,完全是靠硬趟靠病毒的自然演化靠全民免疫。
    发几篇鸟文章能指望个啥。

  • #4

    怕啦https://youtu.be/R4e
    oMKB7cKo鱼

  • dsx1
    #5

    分三类。没有入院的增加的幅度非常非常有限。没有标题惊悚。都喜欢搞个大新闻

    The study’s enrollment period ended before vaccines were widely available, so 99.7% of infected veterans were unvaccinated when they contracted COVID-19. Therefore, the paper doesn’t address whether long-term cardiovascular problems may arise after breakthrough infections in already vaccinated people. (A new analysis tackling that question is now under review at a journal.) Another limitation of the study is that the veteran population skews older, white, and male: In all three groups, about 90% of patients were men and 71% to 76% were white. Patients were in their early 60s, on average

  • dsx1
    #6

    应该去搞一个关于拜神和不拜神 对于中彩票概率的影响。
    一组是从不拜神,概率百分之0.01。另一组是经常拜神,概率是百分之0.02。科学显示,拜神可以加倍中彩票概率。

  • #7

    拖拖的标题党假新闻,不懂哪个新闻网站抄的1,原文根本不在science,而是nature medicine
    2,研究的人99.7 %的人是没打疫苗的
    3,假新闻的精髓:半真半假,断章取义
    原文Other cardiovascular disorders included heart failure increase 72%
    改成faced a 72% higher risk of heart failure

  • vitesse
    #8

    现在的论文都是先有结论 再找zhengju

  • Blzrd
    #9

    有点道理,我是觉得science 怎么会闲到去搞这种劳动密集型分析。。。。。

  • Gofly 楼主
    #10

    Nature 上也有类似的文章没错,并不是假新闻,原文的前两段如下

     

    Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study1 shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.


    “It doesn’t matter if you are young or old, it doesn’t matter if you smoked, or you didn’t,” says study co-author Ziyad Al-Aly at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and the chief of research and development for the Veterans Affairs (VA) St. Louis Health Care System. “The risk was there.”

  • Gofly 楼主
    #11

  • DerrickCH
    #12

    说得好!英文的东西可以信? 现在正经人谁说英文啊。

    不论science, nature,还是柳叶刀,都是被资本控制的宣传机器。不接受反驳

    原文的意思还是让大家继续打疫苗,买特效药,你们懂的

  • #13

    ??这个是10号的news,你发的那个science是九号的,哪个是原文。

  • Blzrd
    #14

    平均年龄60+这个亮了,干嘛不直接分析年龄80+的,风险妥妥90%以上。。lol…..

  • Gofly 楼主
    #15

    我标题引用的是原文啊上面另外一个家伙说nature上的才是原文,还说我说的是假新闻,我就把链接都贴出来了

  • Gofly 楼主
    #16

    Nature上有类似的报道,上面有链接“It doesn’t matter if you are young or old, it doesn’t matter if you smoked, or you didn’t,” says study co-author Ziyad Al-Aly at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and the chief of research and development for the Veterans Affairs (VA) St. Louis Health Care System. “The risk was there.”

  • fqfp
    #17

    100岁以上的老人国家免费医疗

  • lgland
    #18

    什么时候science,nature这么不堪了,仅仅是因为和自己观点不合?

  • #19

    阅读障碍吗?我说nature Medicine, 你贴nature news原文,不懂吗

  • Gofly 楼主
    #20

    请您贴原文我是没有看到

  • tml35855
    #21

    原文在这里7号发表的
    第一作者应该是中国人

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3#MOESM1

  • Gofly 楼主
    #22

    看了你的链接没有感觉放心啊。。。“Our analyses censoring participants at time of vaccination and controlling for vaccination as a time-varying covariate show that the increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis reported in this study is significant in people who were not vaccinated and is evident regardless of vaccination status.”

    就是说打了疫苗感染后也会伤害心脏呗

  • kusubudo
    #23

    以前狮城帮几乎没人中的时候你发这个一定有很多共鸣。
    现在你发,只有共敌。

  • fqfp
    #24

    小区邻居已经在群里面公开宣布自己中了,实名好事情!见怪不怪其怪自败。都不当回事,这病毒就是个屁

  • fqfp
    #25

    是这个道理病毒传播不可避免,这个时候不能找出解决病毒的方案,光是搞一些屁用没有的科研数据来论文灌水,给人添堵,当然招人烦。

  • Gofly 楼主
    #26

    直接上N95能更有效保护自己。这个时候还戴着surgical mask出门的都是大公无私+勇士,为了保护别人而戴

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