差点酿成大祸
秋天树叶 • • 683 次浏览早上在最左边上车道开车,前面有一队骑自行车的占了整条车道,所以我打转向灯了变道去右边,这时候右边车道没车。
结果跟在后面的宝马提前变道且加速,导致我右边车轮过线之后就变道不了。可以确定后车是在我打灯之后才变道的,因为我一般打灯后会再观察几秒。
导致我必须急刹车才能避免撞到骑自行车的,幸好自行车队最后一辆车只占了一半车道,刚好够减速擦边过。
因为根本就没想到后车会加速不让变道,所以我也没有提前减速。实在很危险,给自己提个醒,以后提前减速。
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#101
可以洗洗睡了搞半天某人沾沾自喜的结果是完全错的,还说什么直行车只是超速被罚,没有其他责任,那不是断章取义,那是纯扯淡,
正式过程和结果在这里,非常详细,直行车没有超速那么多,是72到84,他没有减速,但不是故意,而是只看到了第一辆右转的车,没看到跟着的taxi,最终被判了35%责任。这个判罚我认为是有根有据。而绝不是什么路权最大说。
https://www.elitigation.sg/gd/s/2021_SGCA_93
We therefore dismissed this appeal. This case certainly does not establish a precedent that the relative liability of straight-moving vehicles with the right of way against turning vehicles has now been raised to 35% without qualification. The appellant’s liability was assessed to be higher than most of the cases he cited simply because that degree of contributory negligence was justified on the facts.
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#102
这段判决依据尤其的好,深得我心,我给法官点赞29The video footages showed two motorcycles from the Taxi’s end of CAW crossing the junction followed by the unknown vehicle on the left of the Taxi. There can be little doubt that the Nissan’s speed, calculated to be about 20.5 metres per second, assuming it was travelling at the lower end of the range of 74 to 87 kmph, was not a speed at which the driver could take reactive action if some other turning vehicle also started to cross the Nissan’s path.
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#103
还有这段 有理有据35As described earlier, the Nissan was practically charging down CAW at a dangerous speed when it should have been obvious to any driver paying attention to the traffic situation ahead of him that the junction was fairly busy and that there were vehicles waiting to turn across the junction. The appellant agreed that he did not lift his foot off the accelerator although he did not accelerate. Two motorcycles and the unknown vehicle were seen moving across the junction in the path of the Nissan when it was near the junction. It was surely incumbent on the appellant, as the driver of the Nissan, to have slowed down to a speed where he could deal with the possibility that a vehicle at the other end of CAW would start to turn right too early. An attentive and cautious driver would certainly have slowed down his vehicle immediately, especially if it was then travelling at between 74 and 87 kmph. However, the appellant did not do so and missed the turning unknown vehicle narrowly. As the Taxi started to move into the junction merely because the unknown vehicle had done so, the trial Judge was correct to hold the second respondent largely to blame for the accident and to have assessed his liability at 65%. Equally, the trial Judge was entirely justified in finding the appellant to be 35% liable although this percentage was not within the range that the appellant contended ought to be the norm.
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#104
确实可以洗洗睡了
24楼一开始就说了“主责是违法抢先右转的士司机。”,为啥不说全责,是因为直行车超速了,所以要承担一部分次要责任。
这部分次要责任,全都是超速带来的,所以说,直行车司机只需要承担超速带来的责任。
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#105
这还能嘴硬?事故的35%责任 不是说只罚了5000了事,我感觉你在用谎言污蔑法官
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#106
看到法官强调的责任了吗你路权枪毙人的牛逼劲呢
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#107
为啥罚5000知道不?普通超速,罚几百,记几分而已。为啥这次罚5000,吊照2年,这就是35%的责任带来的惩罚。
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#108
客观来讲,撞死人的是直行车,直行车还超速,为啥的士65%的责任?知道路权的意义了吧。
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#109
你前面不是清清楚楚说路权和超速分开判吗5000是因为双方都有损失,折算比例之后taxi要给他垫一部分钱。而不是说他只有超速罚款5000那么简单,他的超速要承担这次死伤事故的35%总体责任。
而不是你一直说的有路权无责任,只是超速罚了款。这次判罚,新加坡的法官还是清楚的,只是被某些人扭曲了。 -
#110
你还认为有路权无事故责任吗?
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#111
换个角度来说如果一辆车超速,追尾前车,导致前车死一人,重伤两人,你觉得法官只是判35%的责任?只是罚款和吊照?
为啥金文泰事故中直行车只需要付次要责任,就是有路权这个护身符。 -
#112
直行超速事故起点15% 但是这是起点而已。法官会视严重性加量The appellant submitted that the MAG recommends that he should bear only 25% liability based on the following reasoning. Scenario 7(b) in the MAG suggests that the driver of the straight-moving vehicle in the Discretionary Right Turn Scenario should bear 15% liability. The MAG further recommends that if the driver having the right of way exceeds the speed limit, his liability should be increased by 10%. On this basis, the appellant argued that he should bear 25% liability at most. However, the MAG also recommends that if the other vehicle has crossed the junction substantially, the liability of the driver having the right of way should be increased by 5% to 10% as he would have had greater opportunity to avoid the collision The video footages showed that the second respondent had almost crossed at least the path of the Nissan at the junction when the collision occurred. If the appellant had not been charging into the junction at a dangerous speed, he would have been in a much better position than the second respondent to prevent the accident from happening. The trial Judge’s apportionment of 35% liability on the appellant’s part was therefore in keeping with the MAG anyway.
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#113
这个理解能力也是醉了一开始就说的清清楚楚,有路权无违规行为,无事故责任。有违规行为,根据违规程度,承担相应的责任。
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#114
不是你说路权下撞死人跟美国人打死进入家里外人一样无罪吗,继续装呗
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#115
呵呵你也就这点耍赖本事了
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#116
加来加去,也就只能加到35%这就是路权的作用,否则后果不堪设想。
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#117
记住这个人的超速low end 只有74而不是你说的92, 真的92了法官肯定会改判
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#118
如果控制在70以下,法官更是要改判无责
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#119
70以下 15%起步然后法官会看有没有车已经在转了
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#120
路权的作用,可以简单对比一下同样的路口,同样的的士和直行车,同样的速度。只不过这次是绿箭头亮起,直行车没有路权了,路权是的士的。如果发生同样的事故,对比现在的判决,就是路权的作用。
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#121
那你可以去试试看,如果你有驾照的话
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#122
夫妻肺片你斯不斯活在自己的想象力天天聊路权
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#123
可以看下正式的判决结果和依据在这里https://www.elitigation.sg/gd/s/2021_SGCA_93
直行车超速lower end其实只到74kmh而不是前面说的92kmh,但是 超速程度,是否有减速,是否已经有右转车辆,这些每一个因素都被纳入了责任考量,最终判决35%事故责任。如果他敢开到92-97肯定就不止35%。
而绝不是fqfp说的有路权就不承担事故责任,只是超速罚了5000。
法官是清楚的,右转司机被重罚也解释得通,但是争论的话题正是直行超速车的责任问题,这个结果清楚告诉我们,有路权,不考虑交通安全,甚至违章,每一条都会被纳入刑量考量,fqfp类似这样危险却不自知还洋洋得意的自诩老司机才是最大的隐患。 -
#124
说的蛮对 实在变不了就不变 耐心跟在后面开一会也没有事情 等到安全的时候再去变道
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#125
夫妻肺片 别以为路是你家的,所谓的路 权 可以随时没收滴。。跟你家可不一样,。。。。。
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#126
看了几段 触目惊心,几百公里没人的高速超速who cares,这种heavy traffic town超速个头啊
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#127
是的繁忙路段 繁忙时段 路口有车,超速最低值不到10%,但是没松油门。都是法官的考虑。
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#128
键盘开车难道不行吗
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#129
变道打灯遇到很多的车在你打灯准备变道的时候都会突然加速,非得要跑你前面
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#130
纯讲路权直行车完全不减速的话
我担保很多小道的车出不了大道。有的地方车流不断的
有些小路前也没黄格子